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The Dojo Session 07

Blue corner
YOU · The Closer
Red corner
MIKE · Reyes Roofing
Scenario
Warm off VSL, burned before
Difficulty Level 3 of 5
START CALL
YOU
Mike, thanks for jumping on. Before we booked this you told the system your roof leads mostly go quiet after the first call, and you're spending about $4K a month on ads. Still accurate?
MIKE
Yeah, more or less. Some months it's closer to five.
YOU
Got it. And your two guys are still splitting all the follow-up between them?
MIKE
When they have time. They're on roofs half the day.
YOU
That's the piece I want to show you. Here's what's actually happening: your ads are fine. Your form filters nobody, so your reps split their week across 80 people who were never buyers. It's a qualification problem, not an ads problem.
MIKE
Huh. My last agency just kept telling me to raise the budget.
MIKE
We actually tried two agencies. Last one had us at $6K a month for eight months. Went nowhere. Honestly that's why I almost didn't book this.
YOU
I hear that a lot, but we're really different. We actually care about results, and I can send over some case studies after the call.
▲ FUMBLE · flagged by the coach at END CALL
MIKE
That's what they said too.
PAUSE
Coach mode · Out of character
YOUI'm losing him on the burned-before objection. What am I doing wrong?
COACHYou argued. "We're really different" is the exact sentence every agency said to him before taking his $6K a month. Agree with him instead, then hand him the three questions his last agency could never answer. You have the frame from Round 4. Say RESUME when ready.
RESUME
YOU
Actually, let me take that back, because you're right to push. Good, honestly. You already know what bad looks like. So ask me the three things that agency never showed you: where every dollar went, what happens in the 90 seconds after a click, and cost per booked job instead of cost per lead.
MIKE
Alright. What happens in the 90 seconds after a click, then?
YOU
Right now? Nothing. Your lead fills a form and waits for a callback that comes hours later, if at all. With the system, they get interviewed on the spot: roof age, insurance situation, timeline. For your situation the fix is the Interviewed Lead System: every lead gets qualified before your team dials, and your reps open every call already knowing the roof age and the insurance angle. For you specifically, that means your two guys stop wasting 20 hours a week on people who were never buyers.
MIKE
Okay. What's this cost?
YOU
The install is $7,500 and management is $1,500 a month. Based on the close rate you gave the system, that pays for itself at two extra jobs a month.
YOU · 4 SECONDS LATER
And we can split the install into two payments if that helps. Some clients also start with just the...
▲ FUMBLE · broke the silence, discounted unprompted
MIKE
Two payments would help, yeah. But I gotta think about it.
YOU
Fair. What if we grab 15 minutes Thursday after you've slept on it? I'll bring your numbers so we can do the two-jobs math on your actual close rate together.
MIKE
Thursday afternoon could work.
END CALL
Judges' Card
Session 07 · Level 3
OBJECTION DRAWN THIS SESSION: "WE TRIED AN AGENCY AND IT FAILED" · pushed at exchange 7, as planned. You folded first, recovered after the pause.
Chart review
Opened with his own intake answers. Never re-asked a single thing the funnel already knew.
8/10
Talk ratio
You spoke roughly 65% of the words. He gave you two short answers in a row and you kept going.
5/10
Diagnosis delivery
"A qualification problem, not an ads problem" landed. His reaction: "My last agency just kept telling me to raise the budget."
8/10
Prescription
Tied to his 20 lost hours, good. But you compressed system, proof, and pitch into one breath.
7/10
Objection handling
Argued before agreeing. The pause saved the call; the fumble still cost you frame.
4/10
The close
Got a real date with a real agenda. But "think about it" walked out unnamed: you never asked which blocker.
6/10
Verdict: no close · follow-up booked38/60
Your 2 weakest moments, word for word
"I hear that a lot, but we're really different. We actually care about results, and I can send over some case studies after the call."
"Good. Then you already know what bad looks like. Ask me the three things that agency never showed you." Agree first. His skepticism is your best asset, not your enemy.
"And we can split the install into two payments if that helps. Some clients also start with just the..."
Nothing. You say nothing. He was silent for four seconds and you paid him a discount for it. The first person to speak after the price loses the frame, and it was you, twice this week.
The round table · Miner, Hormozi, Kell
MINERThe fumble at exchange 8 is not an objection problem, it is a question problem. "We're really different" is a statement, and statements get defended. One question, "what did they promise you that never showed up?", and Mike argues FOR the change instead of against you.
HORMOZIDisagree on priority. The structure mostly held: C, L, O all landed in the first five exchanges. The kill shot was breaking price silence. You can be average at questions and still close if you shut up after the number. He paid Mike a discount for four seconds of discomfort.
KELLYou are both grading mechanics and skipping the best moment of the tape. "A qualification problem, not an ads problem" is a named-mechanism moment, and Mike's reaction proves it landed: "my last agency just kept telling me to raise the budget." That belief shift is why Thursday exists at all.
HORMOZIGranted. The diagnosis bought the second call. But he walks into Thursday with a prospect who now knows silence gets him a discount.
MINERThen we agree on the drill even if we disagree on the diagnosis. Silence first. The question work can wait a week.
Table verdictOne fix before Thursday: deliver the price, then hold the silence. Everything else is trainable later.
Drill for next sessionPrice-then-silence, five reps. You deliver the price line, I stay quiet for up to 20 seconds, and you hold. If you speak first, the rep resets. Next session I open cold on price pushback. Type HARDER when this feels easy.

What you just watchedEvery word of Mike, the coach, and the scorecard came from one Claude Code session running the Dojo Builder prompt: no plugins, no setup, one paste. Session 07 means this closer ran six before it. Reps used to cost real leads. Now they cost nothing.